without prejudice
OPINION
Seventeen years ago, Canada's former defense minister already knew about the secret UAP recovery program in the United States.
In April 2008, Robert Fleischer travelled to an important conference in the United States at the invitation of Frederik Uldall (then head of Exopolitics Denmark).
While there, both had the opportunity to interview former Canadian Defense Minister Paul Hellyer.
We have never published this conversation before – firstly because the recordings were blurry and the sound quality was poor.
Secondly, what Hellyer said at the time seemed too daring for the audience in Germany, where even in 2025 there is still debate about whether UAP even exist.
We have now restored the video with AI. The interview with Paul Hellyer is a document of contemporary history because it shows that: Even back then, it was clear to informed circles that the US was running a secret program to reverse engineer UFO technology, that Congress was not informed about this, and that the public should at least be told that we are not alone.
The video was produced in collaboration with Frederik Uldall, Denmark's leading activist for the disclosure of government UFO secrets (@frederikuldall).
The entire interview is available in German on ExoMagazin.tv – exclusively for subscribers to our website.
About the interview guest: Paul Theodore Hellyer was born on August 6, 1923, in Waterford, Ontario, and was a Canadian entrepreneur, engineer, businessman, and politician.
Hellyer took up his first government position in February 1956 as parliamentary assistant to the Minister of National Defense and was promoted to Associate Minister of National Defense a year later.
In April 1963, he was appointed Minister of National Defense by Prime Minister Lester Pearson. In September 1967, he took over as Minister of Transport, resigning in April 1969.
Hellyer was active in various political parties throughout his life. In 2003, he finally stepped down as chairman of the Canadian Action Party.
Hellyer was the author of numerous books on political topics and, beginning in 2005, spoke publicly about the existence of extraterrestrial beings, accusing governments of blocking the transfer of knowledge from extraterrestrial to terrestrial science and calling for the use of extraterrestrial technologies to stop climate change.
Acknowledgement Original Sources
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